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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
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- February 1st, 1993
-
- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
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- These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
- by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
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- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
- iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.
-
-
- ATTENDEES
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-
- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Chapin, Lyman / BBN
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
-
- Regrets
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
-
-
- AGENDA
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- 1) Administrivia
- o Approval of the Minutes
- January 25th
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- 2) Protocol Actions
- o SMTP Extensions
- o Directed ARP
- o Token Ring MIB
- o NFS
- o RPC
- o IP Address Guidelines
- o Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
-
- 3) Technical Management Issues
- o SNMP Security o Policy Statements
- o RIP Applicability Statement
- o Wide Area Routing with RIP
- o BOF Policy
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- 4) RFC Editor Actions
- o Secure FTP
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- 5) Working Group Actions
- o IP Security (ipsec)
- o Skinny Stack (skinstak)
- o Remote Conferencing (remconf)
- o Integrated Directory Services (ids)
- o Directory Information Services Infrastructure (disi)
-
-
- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Approval of the Minutes
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- Approval of the minutes of the 25th was deferred until the next meeting.
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- o Next Meeting
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- Monday February 8th, 11:30 ET.
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- 2) Protocol Actions
-
- o SMTP Extensions
-
- Revised documents were submitted to the IESG. The ballot was
- completed and the SMTP Extensions documents were passed as a
- Proposed Standard.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send the Protocol Action for the SMTP Extensions
- documents.
-
- o Directed Arp
-
- A specification for Directed ARP was submitted to the IESG by the
- IPLPDN Working Group for approval as an Experimental Protocol. As an
- Experimental Protocol, the IESG is to review the specification for
- basic IETF quality control. The proposal is a significant departure
- from the traditional IP architecture and the IESG was not confident
- this would work or comfortable with this proposal as a Working
- Group product. There does not appear to be a strong constituency
- nor much desire to utilize this approach within the Working Group.
-
- ACTION: Piscitello -- Notify the IPLPDN Working Group chair of the IESG
- concerns about the Directed ARP protocol and ascertain the extent to
- which the proposal has the backing of the Working Group.
-
- o Token Ring MIB
- o Token Bus MIB
-
- A last call for the Token Ring and Token Bus MIBS was sent to the
- IETF mailing list. After almost two years, there does not appear to
- be sufficient implementation or operational experience to warrant
- elevation Draft Standard status. The IESG agreed to pursue moving
- these MIBs to Historic Status.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a second last call for the Token Ring and
- Token BUS MIBS for Historic Status.
-
- o NFS
- o RPC
-
- Progress continues to be made in securing the necessary releases to
- charter an IETF Working Group to standardize NFS. The IESG
- discussed the circumstances by which a Working Group could be formed
- to work on evolving a proprietary protocol, and agreed that a letter
- of release to the ISOC should be a prerequisite to the formation of
- a Working Group.
-
- POSITION: Working groups can be formed to evolve and standardize
- formerly proprietary protocols only after a letter of release giving
- the ISOC the rights to standardize further evolutions of the protocol.
-
- o IP Addressing Guidelines
-
- The IP addressing guidelines will be considered as part of a set of
- CIDR related documents. Until these documents are submitted to the
- IESG, the IP addressing document will remain on the IESG Agenda.
-
- o Lightweight Directory Protocol/ String representation of Attribute Syntaxes
-
- These two protocols were presented as a candidate for Proposed
- Standard. It is not clear whether these should be one standard or
- two. Further consideration was deferred until the more Area
- Director familiar with these protocols returns from vacation.
-
- o PEM
-
- A discussion has begun on the IETF mailing list on the initial lack
- of PEM and MIME integration. The IESG briefly discussed the
- comments and concluded that the issues had been addressed and that
- work to integrate PEM and MIME is progressing in parallel.
-
- 3) Technical Management Issues
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- o Special documents (AS, Policy Documents)
-
- The IAB has suggested to the IESG that because of the significant
- impact among external organizations, it may be helpful have
- Applicability Statements and policy statements reviewed by the IAB.
- The IESG agreed that it would be entirely reasonable to submit such
- documents for review provided that the review does not require an
- additional level of formal approval in addition to the normal
- standards process including the last call.
-
- POSITION: Review of Applicability Statements will be conducted with the
- IAB in such a manner that input and guidance can be provided without
- adding an additional level of formal approval.
-
- o SNMP Security
-
- The IESG did not discuss the continuing problems in the SNMP
- Security Working Group. Efforts at mediation through Steve Crocker
- are continuing. It was noted and acknowledged by the Security Area
- Director that the SNMP Security Working Group is not yet scheduled
- for the Columbus IETF Meeting.
-
- o Policy Statements.
-
- Several Proposals for a new series of documents for statements of
- policy have been proposed to address the need to give weight to
- statements which are not protocols. While an additional document
- series may be useful, the IESG concluded that the range of possible
- documents were likely to make any such series less than adequate.
- The current mechanism for standards track Applicability Statements
- and Informational documents was considered adequate as a rough
- general mechanism for the needs of IESG expression.
-
- POSITION: The current system of standards track Applicability
- Statements and Informational documents is adequate for publication of
- Statements of Policy.
-
- o RIP Applicability Statement
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- No progress to report.
-
- o Wide Area Routing with RIP
-
- No progress to report.
-
- o BOF Policy
-
- There does not exist a uniform policy for the approval of BOF
- sessions at IETF meetings. The variation of practices among the
- Area Directors is causing confusion. The discussion reached
- consensus on several key points. BOFs should meet only once, with a
- second meeting possible to write an IETF Working Group charter.
- Non-IETF groups could meet as IETF BOFs provided they meet normal
- requirements for openness, minutes preparation and do not compete
- for limited space.
-
- ACTION Coya -- Summarize the IESG discussions on BOF policy.
-
- o US Domain
-
- A heads up was given to the IESG on possible issues in the use of
- the US domain.
-
- ACTION: IESG - Review RFC 1386 for possible issues.
-
- 4) RFC Editor Actions
-
- o Secure FTP
-
- A request was made to the RFC Editor for the source to the FTP RFC.
- This request was made to allow easy updating of the FTP protocol
- document to add security. A BOF was held during the San Diego IETF
- meeting and resulted in a list of potential changes to FTP.
-
- ACTION: Russ Hobby -- Investigate the viability of a Working Group to
- revise the FTP protocol to include security as well as other additional
- features.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Report the IESG intention of forming an FTP
- Working Group to the RFC Editor.
-
- 5) Working Group Actions.
-
- o IP Security Protocol
-
- Revised text for the charter is still expected.
-
- o Minimal OSI Upper Layers (thinosi)
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- The IESG accepted the charter for the thinosi Working Group.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the Minimal OSI Upper Layers Working
- Group to the IETF-Announce mailing list.
-
- o Directory Information Services Infrastructure (disi)
-
- The disi Working Group is to be replaced by the Integrated Directory
- Services Working Group and was concluded by the User Services Area
- Director.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the conclusion of the DISI Working Group
- to the IETF-Announce mailing list.
-
- o Integrated Directory Services (ids)
-
- Consideration of the IDS Working Group was deferred.
-
- o Remote Conferencing
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- Work on chartering the Remote Conferencing Working Groups has
- stalled. The IESG agreed to discuss this at the next
- teleconference.
-
-
- APPENDIX -- Summary of Action Items
-
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send the Protocol Action for the SMTP Extensions
- documents.
-
- ACTION: Piscitello -- Notify the IPLPDN Working Group chair of the IESG
- concerns about the Directed ARP protocol and ascertain the extent to
- which the proposal has the backing of the Working Group.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a second last call for the Token Ring and
- Token BUS MIBS for Historic Status.
-
- ACTION: IESG - Review RFC 1386 for possible issues.
-
- ACTION Coya -- Summarize the IESG discussions on BOF policy.
-
- ACTION: Russ Hobby -- Investigate the viability of a Working Group to
- revise the FTP protocol to include security as well as other additional
- features.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Report the IESG intention of forming an FTP
- Working Group to the RFC Editor.
-
- ACTION: Russ Hobby -- Investigate the viability of a Working Group to
- revise the FTP protocol to include security as well as other additional
- features.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Report the IESG intention of forming an FTP
- Working Group to the RFC Editor.
-
-